<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Michael Paoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Cool,<br>
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And, other thing I was thinking about (part technical, part not) ...<br>
if I understand correctly, at persent, Partimus isn't in schools?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Correct.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(but hopes to soon be again). As I understand it, teacher that was<br>
using/"supporting" it in school left, and that whomever/whatever<br>
came in to replace didn't want (at least at that time) to use/continue<br>
the Partimus/*buntu thing.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>They went with Chromebooks, which we are seeing a lot of. Chromebooks is the #1 reason that we are not in schools right now. School after school has gone over to Chromebooks. Which is Linux, so I am not unhappy. I would like to think that we had a small role to play in getting Microsoft Windows out of these schools. Amazing how easily the idea evaporated that "We have to train them on what they will use at work and home in the future." Poof. Gone.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Anyway, in regards to all that, I was thinking perhaps (and maybe on IRC, or ???)<br>
do a "post-mortem" meeting to go over what did - and didn't work - in that<br>
environment, and what we can (at least feasibly) do to improve future<br>
successes (e.g. not only get in more schools again, but be the great resource<br>
that neither schools nor teachers would want to see dropped or removed from<br>
their schools).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am happy to do an IRC to discuss it, although I think that in this case, email is better, as it is asynchronous. And it is really really very simple. Google made it easy for them to get a notebook for every kid. Period. End of sentence.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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And ... just teensy bit of my thoughts/opinion on that too ...<br>
DebianEdu / Skolelinux - might be an *excellent* fit for schools (probably at least<br>
worth some serious investigation). Most notably, a whole lot of what Partimus and<br>
schools would generally want, is already very well worked out for<br>
DebianEdu / Skolelinux - and there are lots of resource around it for Linux in schools<br>
and particularly DebianEdu / Skolelinux itself in schools. Anyway, might potentially<br>
save us a whole lot of work (e.g. avoid reinventing the wheel ... and perhaps<br>
poorly or repeating many of the mistakes that folks have already made and figured<br>
out and fixed/improved for use of Linux in schools). Anyway, just a thought on<br>
that.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am willing to download and try SkoleLinux, but I must admit that I am very partial to simple, vanilla Ubuntu or Lubuntu. It is so easy for me to figure out, because there is so much documentation. And since I am the weak link in the chain, and because I spend a lot of time on client sites, it is really helpful to me to use what I am familiar with. You guys are good at figuring stuff out, but sadly, I often make very rooky mistakes. Sorry. :-/<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>I might wonder, what target environment are we<br>
optimizing/configuring the systems for? </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Right now, we are targeting community computers in the homeless shelter. Again, there are the merits of a simple solutions, because it is a simple use case, presently.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Targeting multiple substantially distinct<br>
environments does multiply the amount of work and resources required.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah, and I often can't do much, which is not good, because then our projects slow down when I need to bug people like Grant or Elizabeth for answers which appear to be frustratingly simple, but are actually not so simple to me.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Anyway, good work on the PXE etc. stuff - most of that quite applies pretty much<br>
regardless of the specific distribution and target environment - I think the only<br>
especially major difference may be Kickstart "vs." FAI - and even there there's<br>
probably a fair bit of overlap. I'm hoping to have some time to test it out,<br>
etc., but ... time, ... priorities, ... we shall see. (E.g. some fair bits of my<br>
time have gotten sucked into things like keeping some LUG(s) from disappearing off<br>
the Internet ... more resources for, e.g. Partimus, to draw upon, if things like<br>
SF-LUG exist (and where's SF-LUG running? All but the list stuff is on a virtual<br>
machine running on hardware where I live, and the list stuff is running out of<br>
Rick Moen's home - an installation which bit over a year ago I very substantially<br>
assisted in getting back on-line and operational again ... and yesterday, just<br>
applied the nudges to get BALUG's hosting back on-line (after a billing payment<br>
SNAFU by the person who's been covering that)).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for all of your work, Michael!<br></div><div><br><br></div></div>
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