<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Tai, <br><br></div>thanks for your great work ! Also, I am cc'ing everyone, because I am not sure who is on the tech list, and Lyz has sent in a trouble ticket to Dream Host, because it has not been archiving the tech list. I will send an email to the tech list asking everyone to put up their hands if they can see the emails coming through to that list. Thanks! <br><br>My comments are in line below. <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Tai Kedzierski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dch.tai@gmail.com" target="_blank">dch.tai@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi all,<br><br></div><div>Some notes of what I've done, and a request for advice, as well as suggestions for Abigail. Please feel free to disagree and improve!<br><br><br></div><div><br></div><div>=== ISO Customization<br></div><div><br></div>I had a go at the ISO customization task over the week-end. Unfortunately the instructions are old, and oscillate between helpful and omissive... My resulting ISO caused kernal panic before even loading boot, but I think I know where to look to troubleshoot that...<br><br><br></div>I've started constructing a bash script to automate as much of it as I can (it's also a good way to re-verify knowledge ;-) )<br><br></div>For the technically inclined, you can find that script here <a href="https://github.com/taikedz/handy-scripts/blob/master/in-progress/customiso/autobuild.sh" target="_blank">https://github.com/taikedz/handy-scripts/blob/master/in-progress/customiso/autobuild.sh</a><br><br></div>Sporadic notes start at line 111 , actual steps start at line 167. It is incomplete.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>May I share that link with Charlie Reisinger? He said that he would try to reach one of his tech gurus to see if they might be willing to help us out, and maybe that guru would be able to offer you some additional insight as you have requested below.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><br><br></div>=== PXE Server / machine boot (help needed?)<br><br></div>I also tried setting up a server to centrally serve ISO images over PXE with a tftp server. Again, shaky tutorials abound, no end-to-end solution. I had troubles with (I think) setting up an internal DNS and having my VMs start there (VirtualBox does not have any "BIOS" settings as far as I've so far seen)<br><br></div>If I can get this much fixed, I can put together a comprehensive guide on setting up the PXE component with better documentation and caveat highlighting.<br><br></div>A lot of it requires manual work so cannot be so easily automated unless I prepare a template, and even then may depend on the target network infrastructure.<br><br></div><span style="background-color:rgb(0,255,255)">**Is there anyone who could offer guidance</span> on setting up BIOS / etc so that a machine can be specifically pointed in BIOS to the PXE server? </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am continuing to do outreach to try to build up a community of people who might be able to help you out, including Charlie Reisinger and others.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I am testing on VirtualBox, but I suspect many real machines also just look for the network's default DNS server... over which I have little control in fact, and the teachers may hit a similar problem...<br><br></div><div>Alternatively, I might need to put together a PXE booting CD which has the presets loaded into it (similar to what I saw at the Uni but not sure...) which would be able to allow us to do away with having to even set up a local DNS server<br></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><br><br></div><div>=== Software requirements<br><br></div><div>Pulling from Abigail's list, these divide fairly nicely into two categories:<br></div><div><br>/==<br><div style="margin-left:40px"><b>I am currently running:</b> <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">(productivity)</span><br>Google docs<br>GIMP *<span class=""><br>Blue Fish editor (html)<br>Firefox<br>Chrome (which crashes a lot and needs to get removed)<br><br></span><b>It would be great to have:</b> <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">(media production)</span><span class=""><br>3d modeling software<br>video editing software<br>sound editing software<br>drawing software<br></span></div>==/<br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Productivity</span> - these can be added as standard to the Lubuntu machine. GIMP may be a bit heavy for the older machines, and I might suggest moving it into the media category. If only light image editing needs doing, I can suggest gPaint which is more like MS Paint in terms of features and lightness.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Can I suggest adding LibreOffice as well? </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>These are elementary students that are using these machines, and so I am thinking that the lighter weight editing tools that come standard with Lubuntu might be adequate for that. I use Libre Office myself personally, but I find it to be very heavy weight. I think that Lubuntu comes with AbiWord preinstalled, doesn't it? I think AbiWord is also much lighter weight than Libre Office<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>It follows the goal of FOSS and works fine offline too. Also uses open document standards. A good habit to instill in students once they move on to using their own computers.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think that AbiWord uses open document standards and is completely free as in freedom.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Media Production</span> - Machines { 8, 19, 12 } from your spreadsheet could house and handle media production suites, I'd be wary of putting it on the standard install. Once I get the customization procedure down, it should be easy enough to produce a second, media-oriented ISO.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We are going to be delivering 15 additional machines to Abigail on Wednesday, March 25. That will be the first step in replacing some of the older, slower machines. Slow machines are the bane of my existence, because we are essentially establishing negative branding with old machines ("FOSS doesn't work"), when actually FOSS works much better on those older, slower machines; however, students and teachers just conclude if it is free as in free beer, then it must be junk. So I am going to emphasize a search for better machines. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br>As my mantra goes, it depends on the workflow and activity goals what we'll be choosing in terms of specific software. I can suggest Abigail have a look at the below list and see what meets her or he r tutors' needs.<br><br><br><u>3d modelling</u> - <b>Blender</b> seems to be the preferred software for 3d animation. The Free video "Big Buck Bunny" was created using Blender as a demo of what it can achieve - plays with the quality of a Pixar short!<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree, let's add Blender.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div><div>For modelling-only, here's some other ones <a href="http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/08/5-open-source-3d-modelling-rendering.html" target="_blank">http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/08/5-open-source-3d-modelling-rendering.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><u>Video editing</u> - funnily enough, <b>Blender</b> has also been recommended for this task on numerous reviews. Otherwise <b>OpenShot</b> and <b>pitivi</b> suites are good alternatives, though this is not my area of expertise.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think that OpenShot is becoming a standard for FOSS video editing, so let's go with that, IMHO.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div></div><div><br></div><div><u>Sound editing</u> - for sound /editing/ <b>Audacity</b> is a good choice. For /music production/ a heftier suite is called for. Perhaps <b>LMMS</b>?<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Audacity is adequate, and has a simpler GUI, which will be better for the elementary school kids she is teaching<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div><div><u>"Drawing" software</u> - What's the use case? There are many categories of "drawing" software - vector drawing (more suited to graphical design and logo creation) can be done with <b>InkScape</b> (proprietary equivalent is Adobe Illustrator); digital painting is well served by <b>Krita</b> (proprietary equivalent... none really. Manga Studio perhaps). <b>GIMP</b> also can serve this purpose but is more geared towards photo-manipulation.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yea, Krita is very good. Let's give them both GIMP and Krita. Krita is easier to use, but GIMP is more powerful. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div><div>My own photographic workflow makes use of digiKam and GIMP (I used to use Adobe Lightroom and PhotoShop; I'm finding I don't need them anymore and am now free of Apple!)<br><br></div><div><br></div><div>For a full creativity set, I could aslo suggest adding <b>Scribus</b> to the standard set for desktop publishing & professional layout preparation (equivalent proprietary is Adobe InDesign)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Okay, let's try Scribus. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><i><br></i></div><div><i>--- A note on creativity/media production distros:</i><br><br></div><div>Whilst Lubuntu will be perfectly fine for most productivity and study tasks, you may want to consider a different distro for media.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I could suggest Abigail have a look at "<b>Ubuntu Studio</b>", a full media production suite distro. Only customization that would be needed would be to make it Unattended Install. <a href="http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntustudio" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntustudio</a><br><br></div><div>ArtistX is another distro worth a look. This too is based on Ubuntu, and again, the same Unattended customization should need doing. <a href="http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=artistx" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=artistx</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My concern with these other two distros is that they will come with a heavy desktop, such as Unity. Until we get her better hardware, it seems to me that staying with Lubuntu is a good idea. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><br></div><div>That's me until next week-end :-)<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thank you so much for your work, Tai !!! Please let me know if I can tweet your github code, as I am going to try to find other people who might be able to help you out! Thanks! <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Tai<br></div><div><br></div></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><br>===<br>Tai Kedzierski<br><br></div><div>IT Services Specialist<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://helpuse.com" target="_blank">http://helpuse.com</a><br><a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29%207526%20963%20612" value="+447526963612" target="_blank">+44 (0) 7526 963 612</a> (portable GB)<br></div><br><div dir="ltr"><span></span><font size="1"><img src="http://www.free-mac-programs.com/images/applications/libreoffice.png" height="19" width="19"> I use <a href="http://www.libreoffice.org" target="_blank">www.libreoffice.org</a><br><br><i>"Open Source Free Software is a matter of liberty, not price."</i><br>
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<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 March 2015 at 22:01, Christian Einfeldt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:einfeldt@gmail.com" target="_blank">einfeldt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Bottom posting...<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Tai Kedzierski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dch.tai@gmail.com" target="_blank">dch.tai@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I'll certainly have a look at Chrome problems once we have the basics in place. If I can replicate the issue I /may/ be able to solve it, otherwise we need to look at what the problems w other browsers are and if the trade off is worth it.</p></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Thx! <br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">I should mention privately that I am totally willing to set up this system for them and Partimus, as it is learning exp for me too, and I commit to provide the best result to my abilities;</p>
<p dir="ltr">However for anything that relates to troubleshooting and tech support outwith the direct project, I am happy to muck in initially, but may have to meet a professional upsell point, or pass the flame... of course, I'll /never/ seek to charge anything without prior agreement - keep this paragraph as testament!</p></blockquote></span><div>Thanks, we understand that you need to make a living, and we will never expect you to commit to doing volunteer work. We all are volunteers with jobs, which is why we appreciate your help! <br></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">I'm signing off now as I have started the Friday evening at a party and want to not send inebriated emails...! So please pardon radio silence ...</p></blockquote></span><div>heh, enjoy! <br></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">I would be interested in having a quick talk with you over skype or similar, and also with volunteer team on this project - I can set up a Mumble VoIP server if preferable. Twould be evening UTC , morning PST<br></p></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I can do skype on Tuesday, March 24 at 10 am PST time, which is 5:00 pm Edinburgh time. Does that work for you? Thanks! <br></div><div><div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr"></p>
<p dir="ltr">--Tai</p>
<p dir="ltr">// Sent from a mobile device; rogue typos may be lurking</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 Mar 2015 20:50, "Christian Einfeldt" <<a href="mailto:einfeldt@gmail.com" target="_blank">einfeldt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>I have gotten some feedback from the teacher, Abigail Rudner. She says that she has been having trouble with the Chrome browser crashing. I don't know what that is all about. Maybe the conflicts that James Howard experienced between Firefox and iTalc have been resolved, and maybe we can remove Chrome as she requests:<br><br><b><br></b><b>I am currently running:</b><br>Google docs<br>GIMP<br>Blue Fish editor (html)<br>Firefox<br>Chrome (which crashes a lot and needs to get removed)<br><b><br></b><b>It would be great to have:</b><br>3d modeling software<br>video editing software<br>sound editing softwaredrawing software<br><br></div>Thanks! <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Tai Kedzierski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dch.tai@gmail.com" target="_blank">dch.tai@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dear Christian, All,<br><br>Hello :-)<br><br><br>I'd like to get the ball rolling first by outlining what we're actually trying to do. I've added my notes to the shared document, and below.<br><br><b>@Christian,</b> please let me know if I've gotten carried away. As you haven't yet given a wishlist, I have dreamt one up....!<br><br><br>At this point in time, the outline points are educated guesses on my part - I've
looked into PXE and unattended installs in the past, and worked with some pre-setup ones in past positions, but not yet had a
project goal to work to myself - hence I am taking this opportunity :-).<br><br>It may
be full of holes. <br><br>Please do poke those holes and suggest/add any improvements/changes!<br><br><br>If
anybody has a burning desire to look into any one Task in particular,
maybe let the group know/put your name next to it so we're not doubling effort - and of course, add sub/tasks as you see necessary :-)<br><br><br><br></div><div>I look forward to working on this with you all!<br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br></div>Cheers<br><br></div><div>Tai<br></div><br><br>/============<br><br><div style="margin-left:40px">Following from my earlier notes, I would like to suggest attaining the goals outlined below, to wit:<br><br>## Goal workflow for workstation install:<br><br> * teacher inserts CD into machine and reboots it from said CD<br> * teacher needs to only click a couple of times to launch the install process<br> ---- this may also involve choosing a network name for the PC<br> * teacher can remove the CD and walk away, whilst the PC does its thing on the network<br><br><br>## Server install/maintenance<br><br>Installation
of the server may need sending someone onsite, or we can prepare an
image that the teacher can install, with a post-install script to finish
the job.<br><br>The server should be able to just run headless and will
probably be in command line mode unless specified otherwise (who
normally performs maintenance?)<br><br>System updates may or may not be
installed by a remote technician, or automatically. From a
break-prevention point of view I prefer the former (or a technician at
the school can be trained); for the school's independence, the latter
may be more relevant.<br><br>At any rate, since the server is to host a
master image, I'd like to insist that the machine /needs/ keeping up to
date and secure from any non-authorized users in the school, or
super-savvy/curious students :-)<br><br><br>###<br><br>I propose the following deliverables:<br><br> * An install image with the required software and very-few-questions-asked<br> * PXE server serving the image<br> * Pre-seed file served from PXE server<br> * PXE server install image itself (in case the server needs resetting) and/or install procedure<br> * Delivery on DVDs for archival and off-Internet purposes<br> * Hopefully, a full build manual for future maintainers<br><br>###<br><br>Tasks to attain this, as far as I can see, are:<br><br>* Create custom "ISO" of target desktop setup (rather, dir structure for serving over the web) from Ubuntu server<br>*
Prepare the pre-seed file (which needs to include installation of
Lubuntu desktop) (this is the workaround I can imagine to get around
Lubuntu's lack of netboot)<br>* Prepare a PXE server setup<br>* Prepare an image of the PXE setup (which will include the contents of the target ISO)<br><br>===<br><br>Resources I've found most relevant so far:<br><br></div><ul style="margin-left:40px"><li>UnattendedInstall CD : <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD</a></li><li>Custom CD incl pre-seed : <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization</a></li><li>PXE setup : <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer</a></li></ul><div style="margin-left:40px"><br>For
Lubuntu, this may require using tasksel to install Lubuntu on top of a
server base, as the std Lubuntu CD does not have the requisite config
files ( /netboot )<br></div><br>=============/<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><br>===<br>Tai Kedzierski<br><br></div><div>IT Services Specialist<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://helpuse.com" target="_blank">http://helpuse.com</a><br><a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29%207526%20963%20612" value="+447526963612" target="_blank">+44 (0) 7526 963 612</a> (portable GB)<br></div><br><div dir="ltr"><span></span><font size="1"><img height="19" width="19"> I use <a href="http://www.libreoffice.org" target="_blank">www.libreoffice.org</a><br><br><i>"Open Source Free Software is a matter of liberty, not price."</i><br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 March 2015 at 23:01, Christian Einfeldt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:einfeldt@gmail.com" target="_blank">einfeldt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi everyone,<br><br></div>Thanks to everyone for your replies over the past couple of days about moving forward with the Ascend Linux lab, and thanks to each of you for your interest in the project. I have gotten some good feedback from you all about this project, and I greatly appreciate what I have heard from each of you. I have introduced each of you in an invitation to the google docs document, so that you hopefully might have an idea as to who everyone is. To that list I will add Jim Stockford, who runs a tech company called Systemateka.com that provides a wide array of open source computer solutions. Jim is one of our leading volunteers in our lab projects, and has been a major backbone of our work on our Linux labs in schools.<br><br></div>Partimus has always moved forward by relying on preserving the goodwill of the members of the projects we work on and as a board all of our decisions thus far have been unanimous decisions, as far as I can see. I think the fact that our formal votes are unanimous reflects the fact that we value the input of each of our participants, and we want to build consensus and goodwill, rather than focus on short term outcomes.<br><br></div><div>Partimus also tends to be a do-ocracy, meaning that people who have the greatest passion and time for a given project tend to take the reigns of a project, and the others tend to support them. So if you see something that interests you, please feel free to take the ball and run with it. <br></div><div><br></div>And so at this time, it appears that Tai Kedzierski, Mike Rojas, and Jim Stockford have the kind of time and expertise needed to bring completion to the PXE bootable .iso project. It seems that Elizabeth and Grant have the expertise, but are slammed with projects at this time and so might not be among the first responders on this project; Jim Stockford describes himself as interested in the PXE boot project but says that he has not done such an .iso yet, but thinks he can help out; and Eric Burke has said that coding is not his forte but is interested in following the project and is writing a doctoral thesis on open source projects; and I absolutely suck at coding. Please correct me if I have not correctly stated anyone's interest or availability correctly, and my apologies in advance if I have made a mistake. <br><br></div><div>If anyone would like to have an IRC chat about this project, I am up for that. Please just remember that Tai is in Scotland. The rest of us are in the San Francisco Bay Area, at least right now.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Eric has found a documentation page that might be helpful for us in starting out the PXE boot project:<br><br><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro</a><br></div><div><br></div>Tai has sent me an email about the Google doc that I circulated. Elizabeth tells me that doc is actually for a specialized manual install .iso, not a PXE-boot .iso, so again my apologies if I have started us down the wrong road, and thanks for that correction, Elizabeth. Here is a link to that Google doc:<br><br><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UEgt_fkGUVdANcnZ1W2S5Rv15Hx3S92Ynn9Mui3xB_E/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UEgt_fkGUVdANcnZ1W2S5Rv15Hx3S92Ynn9Mui3xB_E/edit?usp=sharing</a><br><br></div><div>Eric Burke's link above might be a better starting point, I'm not sure<br></div><div><br></div>More comments below in response to a recent email from Tai:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Tai Kedzierski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dch.tai@gmail.com" target="_blank">dch.tai@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Christian<br><br></div><span>Thanks - I wasn't expecting the "League of Extraordinary Sysadmins" gathering!<br><br></span></div><span><div>Good to know there are others who will be able to provide insight!<br><br></div><div>Rather than muck around in the document you provided (which has the initial vital info!) would it be possible you share a separate empty Google doc to serve as a collaboration/communication area? I'll dump the following in it afterwards<br></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks, Tai. As I said above, I think I might have started us off on the wrong document, and maybe Eric Burke's link would be better? I don't know.<br><br></div><div>At any rate, the document that I circulated is a copy, it is not the original, so if you would like to add the text below to that document, it doesn't bother me. If you would like to start another google document, that would be fine as well. <br><br></div><div>More from Tai below:<br></div><div><div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br>===<br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br></div>I had a quick look at PXE setup yesterday [2015/03/17] and it seems the straightforward setup simply serves the installation media over the network instead of reducing steps to install - James's notes seem to align with this, as in there is customization done but the teacher still has to manually sit through the initial
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options etc)?</div><div><br><br></div>Probably what we are looking for then is an "Unattended install"?<br><br></div>To that end I wanted to ask what the intended/acceptable workflow was - when I was at the University of Edinburgh IT desk, our workflow for installing was:<br><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">* Go to physical machine<br>* Reboot to special CD<br>* hit enter<br>* walk away with CD whilst the PC automatically downloaded from the network and installed everything<br></div></div></div></div></div><br><br><br>##<br>Another issue I encountered was a lack of netboot/pxeboot.cfg
files on the Lubuntu ISO which might need working around (though have
not yet had time to check if there are alternative methods).<br><br></div><div>I'm sure there's a straighforward solution however.<br></div><div><br></div><div>##<br></div>I think Machine #3 (P4 @ 1.8 GHz + 500MB RAM) will be the target candidate for becoming the server.<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span><div dir="ltr"><br><br>===<br>Tai Kedzierski<br><br></div><div>IT Services Specialist<br></div></span><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://helpuse.com" target="_blank">http://helpuse.com</a><span><br><a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29%207526%20963%20612" value="+447526963612" target="_blank">+44 (0) 7526 963 612</a> (portable GB)<br></span></div><span><br><div dir="ltr"><span></span><font size="1"><img height="19" width="19"> I use <a href="http://www.libreoffice.org" target="_blank">www.libreoffice.org</a><br><br><i>"Open Source Free Software is a matter of liberty, not price."</i><br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 March 2015 at 21:12, Christian Einfeldt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:einfeldt@gmail.com" target="_blank">einfeldt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi, <br><br></div>thanks for your reply, Tai. Comments in line below....<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Tai Kedzierski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dch.tai@gmail.com" target="_blank">dch.tai@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Hi Christian</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'll see what I can do as fastest for this.</p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks so much! <br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">For proper PXE + Customized ISO it would require work to integrate it all;</p>
<p dir="ltr">However we can break it into PXE as first goal; and until ISO customization os done, I can certainly envisage a fully automating script for the rest of the installation of custom s.w and settings. </p></blockquote></span><div>Hi, thanks for that info. I have found some of the notes from one of our Linux gurus about what he did with regard to making a Lubuntu PXE boot disc for another teacher. I have invited you to the google doc so that you can see it and possibly get a little bit of a jump on the project. In the meantime, I am going to try to assemble our gurus for a chat about the document, either in IRC or elsewhere, perhaps even in a chat in the document itself. I have invited you to the document, but here is a link to it:<br><br><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UEgt_fkGUVdANcnZ1W2S5Rv15Hx3S92Ynn9Mui3xB_E/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UEgt_fkGUVdANcnZ1W2S5Rv15Hx3S92Ynn9Mui3xB_E/edit?usp=sharing</a><br><br></div><div>Here is a link to the summary of the Ascend school's Linux lab:<br><br><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_s0E7w40zs80yZNrVRqupml6jqADKjD9XoJ3uFkhQMw/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_s0E7w40zs80yZNrVRqupml6jqADKjD9XoJ3uFkhQMw/edit?usp=sharing</a><br></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Can you provide them a server to serve as core PXE master, or will we repurpose a desktop PC to this end?</p></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>We will be looking for a server, but for now, we will probably repurpose a desktop machine.<br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">How frequently do they need to do installs?</p></blockquote></span><div>Initially, they will want to flash all 25 machines. Then it will be a couple times a month as the older machines fail.<br></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Are you mostly installing Ubuntu derivatives?</p></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Yes, that is all that we are doing. We try to use as few distros as possible, and one of our board members, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph, is a Ubuntu Community Council member. Plus Ubuntu has good documentation, which is good for a simple end user like me. <br></div><div> </div></div>Thanks for your interest! <br></div></div></div></div>
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